Hinduism - can you describe the ideal of love in the great epic Ramayana ?

haritha....!!! - 2009-09-07 06:38:56 - Religion Spirituality

Sriram enquires Bharatha at chitrakuta whether his wife was saphala, i.e.,blest with love and offspring. Valmiki has everywhere lent his powerful support only to married love and never to unbridled or non-martial romance. it says that only the evening and not the morning or day time must be given up to woman and love.

Best Answer:

1) Bharata's meeting with Lord Rama: Valmiki Ramayana, Book 2, Chapter 100, Verse 71: (Lord Rama said to Bharata,) "I hope that you consult with three or four ministers as mentioned in scriptures any proposal collectively and singly with each of them in secret." Valmiki Ramayana, Book 2, Chapter 100, Verse 72: "kachchitte saphalaa vedaaH kachchitte saphalaaH kriyaaH | kaccitte saphalaa daaraaH kachchitte saphalaM shrutam ||" 2-100-72 सफल saphala adj. successful सफल saphala adj. fruitfull सफल saphala adj. fulfilled सफल saphala adj. advantage सफलम् saphalam adj. rewarding 72. saphalaaH kachchit= do you find advantages; te= in you; vedaaH= study of Vedas?; kachchit te kriyaaH= are your acts; saphalaaH= productive of fair results?; saphalaaH kachchit= do you benefit; te daaraaH= from the company of your wife?' te shrutam kachchit= Has your learning; saphalam= been rewarding? 'Do you find advantages in your study of Vedas? Are your acts, production of fair results? Do you have the benefit from the company of your wife? Has your learning been fruitful?' Valmiki Ramayana, Book 2, Chapter 100, Verse 73: "O, Bharata! I hope that your conviction, is the same as mentioned by me in the foregoing verses, which is conducive to long life, fame, religious merit, enjoyment and wealth." Lord Rama enquired Bharata whether his wife was helpful to him in verse 72. (Rama had just left Ayodhya and how he can ask on Bharata's offspring. Begetting child is not the only benefit from the company of wife) Also some of the chapters or verses are not available in Ralph T. H. Griffith translation. The other things given by the questioner are far fetched here in this context! Reference, book, personal collection: Srimad Ramayanam, Ayodhya Kandam, Volule 2, P S Krishnaswamy Iyer, R Subramanya Vadhyar sons, Palghat, Page 371, Total Pages 498, Published in1940 2) 'Eka patni vratan': Rama as 'Eka patni vratan' is itself a powerful support only to married love and never to unbridled or non-martial romance. A Navarasa sloka (anonymous) on Rama is interesting as given below: "Sringaaram kshiti nandinee viharane veeram dhanur bhanjane kaarunyam balibhojane adbhutarasam sindau giri sthaapane haasyam SurpaNakha mukhe bhayam aghe bibatsam anyaa mukhe roudram ravaNa mardane muni jane Santam vapu:patu na:" Srngaaram kshiti nandinee viharane-Srngaara rasam was exhibited when Rama was with the daughter of bhoomi, Sita Mata. veeram dhanur bhanjane-veera rasam when he broke the shiva dhanus(bow) kaaruNyam balibhojane-kaaruNya rasam,to kaakaasuran adbhuta rasam sindau giri sthapane-adbhuta rasam when the bridge was constructed on the ocean(to cross the ocean and reach Lanka) haasyam surpaNakha mukhe-haasya rasam was the disfigured face of surpaNakha bhayam aghe-bhayam for doing sinful activities bibhatsam anyaa mukhe-bibhatsam was when looking at the faces of other strees(Rama was eka patni vratan) roudram ravaNa mardane-roudram in killing ravaNa muni jane Santam -Santam to the ascetics of the forest vapu:-the person who exhibited these 9 rasas paatu na:-may protect us.

Answer:

Please do not equate love and sex as same thing. Love is very vast spectrum. Love to nature, Love to parent, Love to children, Love to sister and brother, and so on. And Hindu philosophy advocate sex after marriage. Sex as worship, not as tool of Entertainment. And also advocate to follow bhramcharya as much as possible

when i think of ideal love in ramayana, the love between shri ram and his brother bharatha comes to mind.

I agree with Shiv's answer.

1) Bharata's meeting with Lord Rama: Valmiki Ramayana, Book 2, Chapter 100, Verse 71: (Lord Rama said to Bharata,) "I hope that you consult with three or four ministers as mentioned in scriptures any proposal collectively and singly with each of them in secret." Valmiki Ramayana, Book 2, Chapter 100, Verse 72: "kachchitte saphalaa vedaaH kachchitte saphalaaH kriyaaH | kaccitte saphalaa daaraaH kachchitte saphalaM shrutam ||" 2-100-72 सफल saphala adj. successful सफल saphala adj. fruitfull सफल saphala adj. fulfilled सफल saphala adj. advantage सफलम् saphalam adj. rewarding 72. saphalaaH kachchit= do you find advantages; te= in you; vedaaH= study of Vedas?; kachchit te kriyaaH= are your acts; saphalaaH= productive of fair results?; saphalaaH kachchit= do you benefit; te daaraaH= from the company of your wife?' te shrutam kachchit= Has your learning; saphalam= been rewarding? 'Do you find advantages in your study of Vedas? Are your acts, production of fair results? Do you have the benefit from the company of your wife? Has your learning been fruitful?' Valmiki Ramayana, Book 2, Chapter 100, Verse 73: "O, Bharata! I hope that your conviction, is the same as mentioned by me in the foregoing verses, which is conducive to long life, fame, religious merit, enjoyment and wealth." Lord Rama enquired Bharata whether his wife was helpful to him in verse 72. (Rama had just left Ayodhya and how he can ask on Bharata's offspring. Begetting child is not the only benefit from the company of wife) Also some of the chapters or verses are not available in Ralph T. H. Griffith translation. The other things given by the questioner are far fetched here in this context! Reference, book, personal collection: Srimad Ramayanam, Ayodhya Kandam, Volule 2, P S Krishnaswamy Iyer, R Subramanya Vadhyar sons, Palghat, Page 371, Total Pages 498, Published in1940 2) 'Eka patni vratan': Rama as 'Eka patni vratan' is itself a powerful support only to married love and never to unbridled or non-martial romance. A Navarasa sloka (anonymous) on Rama is interesting as given below: "Sringaaram kshiti nandinee viharane veeram dhanur bhanjane kaarunyam balibhojane adbhutarasam sindau giri sthaapane haasyam SurpaNakha mukhe bhayam aghe bibatsam anyaa mukhe roudram ravaNa mardane muni jane Santam vapu:patu na:" Srngaaram kshiti nandinee viharane-Srngaara rasam was exhibited when Rama was with the daughter of bhoomi, Sita Mata. veeram dhanur bhanjane-veera rasam when he broke the shiva dhanus(bow) kaaruNyam balibhojane-kaaruNya rasam,to kaakaasuran adbhuta rasam sindau giri sthapane-adbhuta rasam when the bridge was constructed on the ocean(to cross the ocean and reach Lanka) haasyam surpaNakha mukhe-haasya rasam was the disfigured face of surpaNakha bhayam aghe-bhayam for doing sinful activities bibhatsam anyaa mukhe-bibhatsam was when looking at the faces of other strees(Rama was eka patni vratan) roudram ravaNa mardane-roudram in killing ravaNa muni jane Santam -Santam to the ascetics of the forest vapu:-the person who exhibited these 9 rasas paatu na:-may protect us.

Ramayana shows the true ideal love between two souls.when rama meets Athri rishi's ashram, his wife Anusuya talks to sita and wonders about her pure love that made her to come to forest for the sake of husband. To which seetha replies that, "MY HUSBAND LOOKS AFTER ME AND CARES FOR ME LIKE A MOTHER, FATHER, AND A LOVABLE HUSBAND. THE LOVE HE HAS FOR ME IS EQUAL TO MY LOVE,WHICH I HAVE FOR HIM.HOW CAN I REMAIN WITHOUT LOVING HIM?" Love must be equal, and it has certain time limits, prescribed in saastras, which has to be spent for women, and those timings, are good according to scientific reasons also. And the upadesha, which Rama gives to Bharatha, which was full of raajneedhi, shows how he cares for dharma to be upholded by a king.Even, that is the reason for the agnipariksha,in ehich he sacrifisec his greatness to show sita's greatness to the whole world and also his partition with sita, when he sacrificed her to jungle, for the sake of people.